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作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-4 09:43 標題: Demo account trade

Initial credit $1M

Trade                      Margin
  1    LP224 @212 $ 10600 (212pt x $50/pt = $10600)
  2    SP226 @255 $    2960
  3    SP225 @327 $ 53455
  4    LC230 @480 $ 74037 (480pt x $50/pt = $24000)
  5    LC236 @225 $  100038 (225pt x $50/pt = $11250)
  6    SC232 @411 $ 70120
  7    SC234 @320 $ 53706
  8    LP230 @360 $    5920
Nett 36pt + Bonus (Mar close within 22400 - 23600)

Assume $1M credit and use about 50% margin ($500K),
one can do around 80-100 sets.

36pt/set x $50/set x 80set = $144K
$144k / $1m x 100% = 14.4%

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-4 09:46

Mar 4 HSIHI Open @23314
US market dry up (thin volume)
Good time to LP

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-4 11:27

外圍勁

昨晚歐洲股市大升0.6至1.5%, 而商品價格, 期油微跌, 而黃金跌幅1%, 美股勁升, 杜指收報12258點, 升191點, NASDAQ指數升50.點, 報2798點. 日本股市目前報10748點, 升162點, 中國上證指數報2906點, 升3點.

外圍大升將可刺激港股造好, 恆指應可輕易突破十天及二十天線, 但大市真正阻力是23400至23500點的五十及百天線, 而本人仍維持大市在23500至23600點造淡的看法.

Stay flat ~23370 all morning

作者: 我要做大戶 時間: 2011-3-4 16:09

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-3-4 09:43 發表
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Initial credit $1M

Trade Margin
1 LP224 @212 $ 10600 (212pt x $50/pt = $10600 ...

fatpat兄，看不到您的圖~~~
可唔可以........thanks~

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-4 17:31

[quote]原帖由 我要做大戶 於 2011-3-4 16:09 發表

大戶 C-Hing

Just the trade summary.

BTW, what can I post? and how?

Just want to post the record to share the learning,
say How much really need to make $10M

[ 本帖最後由 fatpat 於 2011-3-4 17:40 編輯 ]

作者: tsuikinman 時間: 2011-3-6 11:20 標題: 回復 1# fatpat 的帖子

ching ：見有如此高利，非常吸引，我都好想做幾套，但由於較難面對復雜數目，如果此方式脫離預計范圍結算，利潤不知如何修訂

或損失情况如何

有望ching賜教

作者: 我要做大戶 時間: 2011-3-6 17:00

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-3-4 17:31 發表
[quote]原帖由我要做大戶於 2011-3-4 16:09 發表

大戶 C-Hing

Just the trade summary.

BTW, what can I post? and how?

Just want to post the recor ...

電腦嘢唔太熟，可否轉file format 試下？

作者: chief 時間: 2011-3-7 00:38

fatpat hing , < SP225 @327 $ 53455> opt 好像無單數行使價. 是否228?

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-7 09:13

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原帖由 chief 於 2011-3-7 00:38 發表
fatpat hing , < SP225 @327 $ 53455> opt 好像無單數行使價. 是否228?

Sorry, you are right.

It is SP228

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-7 09:18

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原帖由 tsuikinman 於 2011-3-6 11:20 發表
ching ：見有如此高利，非常吸引，我都好想做幾套，但由於較難面對復雜數目，如果此方式脫離預計范圍結算，利潤不知如何修訂或損失情况如何有望ching賜教 ...

That's the MINIMUM profit

If the HSF close between 22400 - 23600, will have extra profit

I will try to plot the profit graph tonight and
TRY to post the graph

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-8 01:31

Premium	HSF	223	224	225	226	227	228	229	230	231	232	233	234	235	236	237
212	LP224	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
255	SP226	-300	-200	-100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
327	SP228	-500	-400	-300	-200	-100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
480	LP230	700	600	500	400	300	200	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
225	LC236	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100
411	SC232	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-100	-200	-300	-400	-500
320	SC234	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-100	-200	-300
360	LP230	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100	200	300	400	500	600	700
	Profit	1800	1800	6800	11800	11800	11800	6800	1800	6800	11800	11800	11800	6800	1800	1800

作者: tsuikinman 時間: 2011-3-9 08:10 標題: 回復 11# fatpat 的帖子

真係可以做到有贏無輸嘅程式，多謝哂fatpat 兄，以後會多d跟你學習

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-14 16:29

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原帖由 tsuikinman 於 2011-3-9 08:10 發表
真係可以做到有贏無輸嘅程式，多謝哂fatpat 兄，以後會多d跟你學習

It can be achieved only after you and other C-Hing posted the signal out

.

Without the trend and your signals, it is pure luck

.

But with the help of your signals, it should have a high success rate

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-14 16:32

Still looking for HSIFUT to close at 22600 for maximum profit

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-19 12:19

Strike  Call OI Put OI Total OI
21000    725 6174    6899
21200       64 5712    5776
21400       69 5267    5336
21600       61 3769    3830
21800    744 6592    7336
22000 1164 *7082    8246 Most Put OI
22200    879 4532    5411
22400 1199 3455    4654
22600 1918 6027    7945
22800 2475 2487    4962
23000  *7433  *6704 *14137 Most Call OI / Net OI
23200 3646 3123    6769
23400 4446 2541    6987
23600 4348 3432    7780
23800 5067 1083    6150
24000  *7062 3107  *10169 Most Call OI

Just like C-Hing said, MAR target trading range is 220 - 240
Seems like MAR close at 230 is of best interest.

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-3-31 09:29

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-3-4 09:43 發表

Initial credit $1M

Trade                      Margin
  1    LP224 @212 $ 10600 (212pt x $50/pt = $10600) <-- Expired
  2    SP226 @255 $    2960                                                 <-- Expired
  3    SP228 @327 $ 53455                                                 <-- Expired
  4    LC230 @480 $ 74037 (480pt x $50/pt = $24000) <-- 234-230 = +400pts
  5    LC236 @225 $  100038 (225pt x $50/pt = $11250) <-- Expired
  6    SC232 @411 $ 70120                                                 <-- 230-232 = -200pts
  7    SC234 @320 $ 53706                                                 <-- Expired
  8    LP230 @360 $    5920                                                 <-- Expired
Nett 36pt + Bonus (Mar close within 22400 - 23600)          <--          Nett +200pts ...

Finally close around 23400, max profit gain ~236pts = $11,800

Assume use half of the credit (1M) $500,000 to buy 80sets,
total profit = 80 x $11800 = $944,000

Around 94% gain

.

Too bad the demo account expired and cannot check the final balance

Even worse, it is not my real money account

[ 本帖最後由 fatpat 於 2011-3-31 09:31 編輯 ]

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-4 14:37

Debit (-ve) is NORMAL!!

I 'm still learning to use the TA (Technical Analysis, aka graph)
so I use all the prediction from our C-Hings :-)

Since Apr up +1000pts already (from 23000 to 24000)
assume Apr close at 24000

This month will try

Current price (Apr 4 1426)
Bid Ask
1) L246C @179 / 181
2) S244C @247 / 250
3) S240C @431 / 436
4) L238C @549 / 557
Thus all contracts buy / sell at market will give a debit -60pts

5) L242P @445 / 453
6) S240P @350 / 354
7) S236P @202 / 206
8) L234P @151 / 155
Thus all contracts buy / sell at market will give a debit -56pts

This set will win at range 23456 - 24540

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-4 14:44

引用:

原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-4-4 14:37 發表
Debit (-ve) is NORMAL!!

I 'm still learning to use the TA (Technical Analysis, aka graph)
so I use all the prediction from our C-Hings :-)

Since Apr up +1000pts already (from 23000 to 24000)
assume ...

To make it a credit (+ve) condor / cost less,
Will try to SC / LP at around HSIFUT 24130 (DH 24135),
so using the delta to estimate the premium

,
then LC / SP at around closing.

Most C-Hings predict a correction later today

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-4 14:53

Even better, all the US index are at their resistance level.

I'm looking for a dip tonight and tomorrow.

So LC / SP after the holiday seems a good deal too

.

Of course, there is risk to do the naked call

,
but if my prediction is wrong, we can do something
to save our contracts later.

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-4 15:04

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-4-4 14:37 發表
This set will win at range 23456 - 24540 ...

This set will win at range 23516 - 24486

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-4 16:19

Since the DEMO account is not working,
only enter one trade

1) S244C @280

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-6 10:08

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-4-4 16:19 發表
Since the DEMO account is not working,
only enter one trade

1) S244C @280

Too bad the S240C I had asked for 495 but it was closed at 490 only on 4/4

.

Otherwise, using this morning price

L246C @180 <- This morning, will be lower later

S244C @280 <- Done

S240C @490 <- Miss by 5 pts

L238C @570 <- This morning, will be lower later

Nett +20pts, which is more than enough to cover the commissions etc.

Why not take the profit of the S244C and leave

?
Because I'm greedy and hope Apr will close around 24300 and have 200pts profit

=> very little cost : 200pts (max profit)

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-28 09:14

Assume May is up (1000+), after yesterday drop, it is a good time to long call.

Current HSIK1 @23661, so

               Bid Ask
L240C @  478 486
L248C @  184 189

[ 本帖最後由 fatpat 於 2011-4-28 09:21 編輯 ]

作者: fatpat 時間: 2011-4-28 10:32

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原帖由 fatpat 於 2011-4-28 09:14 發表
Assume May is up (1000+), after yesterday drop, it is a good time to long call.

Current HSIK1 @23661, so

               Bid Ask
L240C @  478 486
L248C @  184 189

L240C @166
L248C @442

作者: exuf3395 時間: 2011-11-23 06:07

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